Owen Wilson walks into the room with a dress shirt
loosely worn, a cap on his ungroomed hair, and a
"Just woke up" face. He says "Hello" in a voice
that's either nervous or the first utterance of the
day.
Press: What's the Morgan
Freeman movie you're doing?
OW: "The Big Bounce." We start filming next
week in Hawaii. I feel like I've earned a tropical
location because I've been in Eastern Europe for
three years including this one which was Budapest.
RA: Back to "I SPY," how much
is improvised?
OW: Well, Eddie is very good at
improvising. And I like to improvise also, but the
stuff that was in the script was kind of a starting
off point.
RA: The Sewer Scene?
OW: (Laughs) Yeah...
Press: And the seduction
scene.
OW: Well that was in there, and I was
supposed to sing. But I haven't seen the movie. I get
uncomfortable watching stuff. So I don't know what's
in there. But I said, I'll do my version of singing
which is what I remember, kind of talking. It was
really hard in "Zoolander" just to
have to do that kind of dance type stuff and even for
that they had like three stunt doubles. I just don't
move very well.
Press: Why do you think they
called this movie "I Spy?"
OW: I don't know, I didn't see "I Spy" as a
kid. I'm 33 and I must have just missed that series.
And I've never really seen it, but when I signed on
to the movie -- I still haven't seen it. (Laughs all
around). But people told me about it. Did you guys
see the show? Is the TV series funny kind of?
Press: Yes. Why didn't you
want to see the series even after you took on the
project?
OW: Ah, probably because I thought we were
already kind of committed to where we going. And if I
would have seen somebody really great maybe it
would've bummed me out. That's funny though, Eddie
and I never had a conversation about the TV series,
but we did talk about "Uptown Saturday," Bill Cosby
with Sidney Poitier, and I knew that very well and
Eddie loved that.
Press: Are you really doing
"Starsky & Hutch?"
OW: I think so, with Ben Stiller.
Press: Which one will you be?
(Laughs all around.)
Press: Are you also writing
anything right now?
OW: No.
Press: What about "Shanghai
Nights?"
OW: Coming out in Feb or March?
Press: What ideas did you
bring to the "I Spy" script?
OW: I'm more comfortable giving a
character, a vulnerability, a sort of insecurity,
something that's easier for me to relate to. That
character of Carlos, was somebody I could feel sort
of jealous of and threatened by. That was an idea we
had once I signed on.
Press: So that was your
idea?
OW: yeah...
Press: Did Eddie have to meet
you and say "Yes?"
OW: No, because he didn't come over to
Slavakia.
Press: How did the
improvisation actually work out?
OW: With Carlos, it was meeting with Jenno
and Betty and they met with the writers and they kind
of fleshed it out and put it in there. I met with the
writers some and that was before Eddie was involved
creatively. Then on the set, you see in movie,
improvises, he's doing writing on the spot. Then we
sort of get a feel for each other and feed each other
lines.
Press: And what about
Wes?
OW: Wes is writing something now, I think
he has in mind for Bill Murray. Should be funny.
Press: Which do you enjoy
more, writing or acting?
OW: Usually when I'm acting, I'm drawing on
the writing to come up with stuff. But the writing,
those movies are probably more personal that Anaconda
(Laughs) believe it or not.
Press: So will you write
again then?
OW: I'll play the next couple of years out,
then write something with Wes. Yeah, it's kind of
amazing; we came out to work on "Bottle Rocket" which
did not get a wildly enthusiastic reception from
audiences. I guess, people in Hollywood, we had some
supporters, Scorcese put it on his top ten list.
Press: Did you think about
giving up?
OW: Yeah, I thought that, but Wes, didn't.
He was ready to stay the course.
In marked contrast to the droopy shouldered Owen
Wilson, boistrous Betty Thomas enters the room,
speaking with vibrance, decibals and rocking back in
forth in her chair with energy. Some years back, she
had played the role of Officer Lucy Bates on "Hill
Street Blues" -- a favorite of mine so her presence
here brings a smile to my face.
Press: Why call this piece "I
Spy" when it has nothing to do with the
series?
BT: That's not true it does, but here's why
... because Sony forced me to do it. (Laughs all
around).... I went back, looked at the "I Spy's" from
television and what I really responded to was Culp
and Cosby together and what they seemed to be doing.
There seemed to be a "Thing" between them, sort of a
glove... We tried to incorporate that gloved thing
and that was the minimal that I took and I took
nothing else and nor was I interested in taking
anything else.
Press: There's not a big cult
"I Spy" following.
BT: I think there are people that really
love that film and I don't want them to come to this
film and think they're going to be seeing Cosby and
Culp. That's not true here. You will be rewarded if
you have no pre-conceived notions about this
film.
Press: What was the
conversation about the title?
BT: Yeah, you want to hear it? Here we go,
Amy's going to fire me. (Chuckles) I read it and I
said, "okay, needs to be funny... if Eddie's doing
it, I like this Owen Wilson guy I'd like to see what
happens with that." Amy says, "Sounds great, sounds
great" and I said, "And you can't call it 'I SPY.'"
She says, "No, no it must be called 'I SPY.'" I said,
"Okay, that's fine, but I'm not doing it." She said,
"You really feel that strongly about it?" I said,
"Maybe you can call it, 'I Spy You Box' or 'You Box I
Spy' or 'We Spy,' but you can't do 'I Spy!'" ... She
said, "Okay, okay if you feel that strongly" ... and
week later I get a call and Amy says, "We gotta call
it 'I Spy.'" .... So now I say, this is a movie
called "I Spy" in spirit only... that is a
Comedy-action film not an Action-comedy film.
Press: Does this have
anything to do with Sony wanting to do "James
Bond?"
BT: Sony has nothing, let me repeat that,
nothing to do with anything in my movie. Sony did not
decide anything about anything in the movie. I want
to say that over and over again. And by the way, that
is a huge huge complement to them. That's good.
Press: What's the secret of
working with Eddie?
BT: I don't know? This time was different
than the last time. He was joyous, he was warm...he's
who he is right now. Just the way he improvises off
of the moment ...out of the script and not out of the
air. He won't let you say, "Why don't you come up
with something funny?" He hates that. So he takes the
script and goes, "This is good I can work with this"
and then he'll surprise you on the set and he
surprised Owen too. Eddie was a dream guy this time.
It was a role he really wanted to play. He grew up
with his father who was a boxer, they all boxed when
they were young. That's what they did. He worked out
by himself to put himself in the shape he was in,
that's his body. He really got in good shape and I
was worried, yes. But he was working out and he knew
exactly what to do because of his upbringing. And you
know that they originally wrote this, tennis player,
basketball player. And Eddie says, "I don't know how
to do any of these things, if can't do of those. I
don't know how to play basketball, I'm the worst. if
you have to do anything, could you do boxing? That
would really turn me on."
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